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    It's not the impact part of elbows that bother me at all. I got, not as much as it used to be, tired of seeing fights stopped from weak ass elbows. An elbow that wouldn't crack an egg can still cut the fuck out of somebody. I love a good hard elbow that has intent on knocking somebody right the fuck out, I hate elbow that are thrown only for the purpose to cut somebody. Those type of elbows are very, very hard to defend as they have no real juice on them but they are plenty to cut you. You might not hardly even notice you got hit but if you hit the "right" side of the face in which the bone can cut from the skull out, it changes the fight. I freaking love the elbows Jones throws, that's how elbows should be thrown. But elbows to cut are just gay, kinks like foot stops and the great guida shoulder shrug things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrordinaire View Post
    Until someone gets their face slashed in half they are gonna ban them

    The thing is that people don't throw elbows to ko someone their main fukn intention is to cut their opponents so they can stop the fight.. Now that is a dirty ass way to win
    And blood doesn't bother me one bit
    But this is a sport.. You might as well allow people to bring knifes into a fight

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    So do you want punching banned as well, because there are a lot more cuts that come from being punched than from elbows. Hell, until recently it wasn't that many guys that even knew how to utilize the weapons of elbows that well. Quite frankly, I've always been shocked at why it took guys so long to use elbows with how effective they are. One of the biggest reasons I became a Florian fan.

    ANd again, a guy's face can get sliced from any type of strike. BJ Penn put one of the worst cuts I've ever seen on Diego when he kicked him in the face. I could make just as much of a an argument about kicks to the face or knees especially than the dangers of elbows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit View Post
    It's not the impact part of elbows that bother me at all. I got, not as much as it used to be, tired of seeing fights stopped from weak ass elbows. An elbow that wouldn't crack an egg can still cut the fuck out of somebody. I love a good hard elbow that has intent on knocking somebody right the fuck out, I hate elbow that are thrown only for the purpose to cut somebody. Those type of elbows are very, very hard to defend as they have no real juice on them but they are plenty to cut you. You might not hardly even notice you got hit but if you hit the "right" side of the face in which the bone can cut from the skull out, it changes the fight. I freaking love the elbows Jones throws, that's how elbows should be thrown. But elbows to cut are just gay, kinks like foot stops and the great guida shoulder shrug things.

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    How many actual fights get stopped because of elbow cuts though? If you think about it, it really doesn't happen often at all. Hell, guys getting poked in the eye is a much more frequent problem in fights than elbow cuts are. It seems like every 5 months or so someone starts crying about elbows in MMA, but has no problem with so many other things that happen much more often that could be described as some sort of problem in MMA as well.

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    Yes, cuts happen but they should be caused by shots that count. That head shot was an epic shot and had intentions of ending the fight. I don't think they should be banned cause we are actually starting to see a few guys learning how to good elbow, not gay ones. And yes, I think foot stops should be banned along with guida shoulder thingys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrordinaire View Post
    There are very few fighters that use elbows to ko someone..
    What gets me is one someone is on top and they are just grinding their elbows in the opponents face or throwing little shirt elbows.. You already know the intentions.. That requires no skill whatsoever

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    How does that require no skill? Have you ever trained and been properly taught to throw an elbow? It definitely requires skill to throw an elbow at an angle where it slices the face or the skull. Hell, I had one teacher show me an unorthodox way of throwing an elbow and told me to actually barely miss my target so I could slice it better than to land it plush on the face where it would be more of an impact as opposed to a nice slice across the head. And I don't see how you could say that about guys being on top and throwing those elbows having no skill, because I've been watching guys for years try to GNP other opponents and do absolutely nothing with their elbow strikes from on top. It's a reason why there haven't been that many guys that knew how to effectively use elbows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Tex View Post
    How does that require no skill? Have you ever trained and been properly taught to throw an elbow? It definitely requires skill to throw an elbow at an angle where it slices the face or the skull. Hell, I had one teacher show me an unorthodox way of throwing an elbow and told me to actually barely miss my target so I could slice it better than to land it plush on the face where it would be more of an impact as opposed to a nice slice across the head. And I don't see how you could say that about guys being on top and throwing those elbows having no skill, because I've been watching guys for years try to GNP other opponents and do absolutely nothing with their elbow strikes from on top. It's a reason why there haven't been that many guys that knew how to effectively use elbows.
    When your talking about throwing elbows with the intention to ko someone I agree they require skill.. Mostly the standing elbows..
    But when you are grinding your elbow on someone's face and throwing little short elbows that requires zero skill.. And please don't try and convince me that it does because it doesn't



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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Tex View Post
    How many actual fights get stopped because of elbow cuts though? If you think about it, it really doesn't happen often at all. Hell, guys getting poked in the eye is a much more frequent problem in fights than elbow cuts are. It seems like every 5 months or so someone starts crying about elbows in MMA, but has no problem with so many other things that happen much more often that could be described as some sort of problem in MMA as well.
    As I said above, more past than present imo. More guys are throwing real elbows now. I think its less of an issue now for me.

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    Georges throws pretty good elbows from on top too...he throws to score and do damage. I see both points tho...
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    It takes more skill to throw an elbow from the top than a hammer fist. You guys are really underestimating the skill involved in elbows, and more and more these elbows are coming down hard and furious.....gone are the days of just trying to cut the opponent, the elbows now are being thrown as a serious KO weapon.
    Elbows are also an effective weapon for the guy on the bottom, you don't need as much force to inflict some good damage.

    Like I said earlier, you ban elbows on the ground, and you'll soon be watching Lay n' Pray Fighting championship.
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    I don't really care if an elbow is used to harm or to cut someone, it is simply up to the opponent to learn to defend against these and not get into the position where this can happen. Like Cisco said earlier, it's the same with lay n pray, people need to be able to defend against that instead of whining about it. MMA is in no need of softening the sport, I really don't want to watch 2 guys dry hump or stand and shadow box, and that will be where the sport would end up with the banning of elbows, cause next it will be knees, then kicks, and hell then it's fucking Boxing we'll be 'not' watching!
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