Jon Jones : Tito Ortiz possibly could have beaten me in his prime

[Cisco]

Dude, Tito was never that good. He isn't even close to being one of the best LHW's when you look at many things now.

It's easy to say that now, hindsight 20/20 n all. He held the belt longer than anyone for quite a while. It's easy to say well he wasn't that good now because the talent level has risen so much so rapidly. At the time he was the best and yes I agree the talent level was not anywhere near what it is now. It's like the Fedor argument. What you're doing though is comparing fighters from different eras even though he just retired. It's like saying Elgin Baylor or Wilt Chamberlin suck compared Jordan or Kobe. Thing is I think I he'd lose most times as well, but it's unrealistic to expect him to beat Jones. To say he'd never beat him though is even more unrealistic. In Mma all it takes is that one shot to end a night. Plus a Tito with more spring in his step,speed, and vicious GNP was always a threat to anyone.

[BluenoseGreig]

It's easy to say that now, hindsight 20/20 n all. He held the belt longer than anyone for quite a while. It's easy to say well he wasn't that good now because the talent level has risen so much so rapidly. At the time he was the best and yes I agree the talent level was not anywhere near what it is now. It's like the Fedor argument. What you're doing though is comparing fighters from different eras even though he just retired. It's like saying Elgin Baylor or Wilt Chamberlin suck compared Jordan or Kobe. Thing is I think I he'd lose most times as well, but it's unrealistic to expect him to beat Jones. To say he'd never beat him though is even more unrealistic. In Mma all it takes is that one shot to end a night. Plus a Tito with more spring in his step,speed, and vicious GNP was always a threat to anyone.