If Jose Canseco wants to fight ... I will hurt him

[Drock]

Canseco wanted to fight me, and what's strange about it is that what I do is not a circus, not going in there playing trying to make money. My money went to Pastor Evans at Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship. All my proceeds went there. I didn't get into this to make money, I got into it for the competition. Jose is doing this for the money and my thing is, if he wants to fight me and thinks it's going to be a circus, I will hurt him. This is not a joke, I will hurt him. I don't do things as a joke [or] as entertainment. When we go out there and play a flag football game, that's entertainment, that's having fun. But this MMA fighting is real, you can get hurt and he doesn't understand this. I'm doing this as a fighter, not as a joke

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[Dirty Daley]

he looked like an idiot against hong man choi,he needs to go down to the smaller shows after that first performance.

[Drock]

he looked like an idiot against hong man choi,he needs to go down to the smaller shows after that first performance.
He Needs To Never Fight Again After That Performance.

[Skycosis]

He should think a little more often....

[Discipline]

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"Canseco wanted to fight me, and what's strange about it is that what I do is not a circus, not going in there playing trying to make money. My money went to Pastor Evans at Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship. All my proceeds went there. I didn't get into this to make money, I got into it for the competition. Jose is doing this for the money and my thing is, if he wants to fight me and thinks it's going to be a circus, I will hurt him. This is not a joke, I will hurt him. I don't do things as a joke [or] as entertainment. When we go out there and play a flag football game, that's entertainment, that's having fun. But this MMA fighting is real, you can get hurt and he doesn't understand this. I'm doing this as a fighter, not as a joke."

-Football legend, and current Strikeforce fighter, Herschel Walker (1-0), responds to Jose Canseco (0-1) calling him out in a lame attempt at another money grab.

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[Misfit]

I went ahead and merged this.

[Discipline]

thats cool. i wasnt sure if ishould or not.

[Red Tex]

I think people should go back even further and look at the fact that Canseco couldn't even win a celebrity boxing match against some ex NFL kicker that was a lot smaller than him and he got crushed by that guy.

Canseco is a disgrace to any sport, much less MMA. He put a huge black eye on baseball and ratted out on a ton of players as well. The guy shouldn't have any opportunities to get into any professional sport after what he tried to do to baseball.

He's not a fighter. He's just a fucking side show loser who will do anything for a buck. He'd get killed by Walker and after a decent performance from Walker, that would take any credibility that Walker and SF gained from his exposure and it would turn it into total shit over night. If SF does, this I'll have a hard time wanting to watch any more of their shows. It's making a mockery of MMA by doing something like this and setting a horrible precedent for the future of this sport.

[Misfit]

I agree with everything you said except for him being a black eye for baseball. He's about the only honest guy in baseball. Is he a rat, yes. Did he rat for money, yes. Was he telling the truth, YES. Canseco was just doing what a lot of other baseball players were doing and being pushed to do by the league. By not testing these guys, the league was saying it's ok to do the shit they were doing. Just like the WWE, juiced employees sold tickets.

[Discipline]

I agree with everything you said except for him being a black eye for baseball. He's about the only honest guy in baseball. Is he a rat, yes. Did he rat for money, yes. Was he telling the truth, YES. Canseco was just doing what a lot of other baseball players were doing and being pushed to do by the league. By not testing these guys, the league was saying it's ok to do the shit they were doing. Just like the WWE, juiced employees sold tickets.

i have to agree as much as i hate it. i love baseball and the history behind it. it wasnt canseco that put the black eye. it was ALL of them in the 90's doing it. he was just the one that got calldd out first. regardless, hes a tool for shit like this. wlaker seems very level headed and knows hes not a chamop and wont be but he enjoys it and donated every bit of his check.

[Red Tex]

I agree with everything you said except for him being a black eye for baseball. He's about the only honest guy in baseball. Is he a rat, yes. Did he rat for money, yes. Was he telling the truth, YES. Canseco was just doing what a lot of other baseball players were doing and being pushed to do by the league. By not testing these guys, the league was saying it's ok to do the shit they were doing. Just like the WWE, juiced employees sold tickets.


Here's my thing with him in baseball. The guy tries to take credit for "wanting" to clean up baseball, but yet then on the slide he brags about being like the steroid GURU who spread roids out to a ton of players in baseball Misfit. It's a total cop out. And he only came clean about all of that shit because he was bitter about the fact that he was terrible and could no longer play well for many years while a ton of other of his peers that were great in his hay day ended up having much longer careers and better legacies. He was jealous and bitter because of that and he was also bitter with MLB because he couldn't even make it on any other teams or even Minor League teams. He didn't do it to help the MLB. He did it to hurt the MLB because of his own failures as a player. He was your typical celebrity that couldn't take it when he wasn't in the lime light anymore and because he went from having a great reputation to having a terrible reputation. You have to remember, that he went around assaulting people in bars and beat his wife a few times as well. The guy was the biggest fucking douchebag long before the steroids debacle ever occured.

Him coming clean is like a gang leader in jail for life talking about all of the killings he did with other gang members that were free where the gang leader's angry about the other guys not having to rot with him. He didn't do it to be noble. He did it to sell books, because he was broke. You have to remember he put that book out just a year after he was trying to charge people like 1,000 dollars just to hang out with his ass at his home when he was on house arrest and NO ONE, not one single person paid for that.


As far as steroids goes in baseball, I dont' have ill feelings towards any of the players who juiced. I did for a while with Bonds, but once I realized how many guys did it I no longer faulted Bonds. That was just part of the game. It sucks to realize that as a fan, but way to many guys were doing that for me to bash these guys for it. I would have done it to in a contract season if I felt that I could hit like 10 to 15 more HR's and get a much bigger "guaranteed contract."

[Discipline]

I agree with everything you said except for him being a black eye for baseball. He's about the only honest guy in baseball. Is he a rat, yes. Did he rat for money, yes. Was he telling the truth, YES. Canseco was just doing what a lot of other baseball players were doing and being pushed to do by the league. By not testing these guys, the league was saying it's ok to do the shit they were doing. Just like the WWE, juiced employees sold tickets.


Here's my thing with him in baseball. The guy tries to take credit for "wanting" to clean up baseball, but yet then on the slide he brags about being like the steroid GURU who spread roids out to a ton of players in baseball Misfit. It's a total cop out. And he only came clean about all of that shit because he was bitter about the fact that he was terrible and could no longer play well for many years while a ton of other of his peers that were great in his hay day ended up having much longer careers and better legacies. He was jealous and bitter because of that and he was also bitter with MLB because he couldn't even make it on any other teams or even Minor League teams. He didn't do it to help the MLB. He did it to hurt the MLB because of his own failures as a player. He was your typical celebrity that couldn't take it when he wasn't in the lime light anymore and because he went from having a great reputation to having a terrible reputation. You have to remember, that he went around assaulting people in bars and beat his wife a few times as well. The guy was the biggest fucking douchebag long before the steroids debacle ever occured.

Him coming clean is like a gang leader in jail for life talking about all of the killings he did with other gang members that were free where the gang leader's angry about the other guys not having to rot with him. He didn't do it to be noble. He did it to sell books, because he was broke. You have to remember he put that book out just a year after he was trying to charge people like 1,000 dollars just to hang out with his ass at his home when he was on house arrest and NO ONE, not one single person paid for that.


As far as steroids goes in baseball, I dont' have ill feelings towards any of the players who juiced. I did for a while with Bonds, but once I realized how many guys did it I no longer faulted Bonds. That was just part of the game. It sucks to realize that as a fan, but way to many guys were doing that for me to bash these guys for it. I would have done it to in a contract season if I felt that I could hit like 10 to 15 more HR's and get a much bigger "guaranteed contract."

i aslo agree with this tex. he didnt do it for the good of baseball imo either. and sadly as you said its almost accepted now since every damn body then was doing them. roids or not, it doesnt take away from the natural talent of the game. you may hit the bal farther and a little harder but it doesnt make you hit the ball.

[Misfit]

I agree that Jose is a POS, wouldn't argue that for a second. My point is that he wasn't bad for baseball, he was just part of baseball IMO. And I agree with you on Bonds. I didn't really do anything "wrong" compared to the rest of the league, he just did nothing "wrong" better than everybody else. :D

[Dirty Daley]

walker is in some shape.he was abit stiff.

[JCota]

Man...as the age old saying goes..."o'h how the mighty have fallen!!!" Jose Canseco was a dominant hitter in MLB, steroids or not. He could have been great but his brain left him. Hershal Walker was cool in his first fight but he is not an MMA fighter. Any joe off the streets may have been able to be competetive against the fighter Walker fought. Hershal did a horable thing giving his earnings to that church but he's not an MMA fighter. They say, I'd hate to see them get hurt....but the truth is, if these "once were great athletes" continue to test one of the most challenging sports ever (MMA), someone is destined to get seriously hurt.

[Misfit]

walker is in some shape.he was abit stiff.
He kinda looked a bit like Arona fighting to me :lol:

[Skycosis]

Hard for me to call this one. normally i would bring Herschel age into the matter but that dude looks great for his age.

[JCota]

No doubt, Walker is a freak of nature. He has always been in phenomenol shape!!!

[Discipline]

ive heard he does very minimal weight lifting. all his workouts are mainly bodyweight. and this is something i heard hes done his whole life, even during football. not sure how true it is.

[Misfit]

ive heard he does very minimal weight lifting. all his workouts are mainly bodyweight. and this is something i heard hes done his whole life, even during football. not sure how true it is.
I think it's valid, he's always been simple that way.

Walker’s work out is a staggering 2,500 sit ups and 1,500 push ups a day. Those numbers are right. 2,500 sit ups & 1,500 push ups every 24 hours. That definitely proves that Walker’s body isn’t just for show: those muscles know how to work. Walker’s philosophy on working out is simple: start every day very early in the morning before the distractions of the day come around, and do that work out without quitting every single day, 365 days a year, 366 on leap years, no matter what.

It didn’t matter if Walker was at home or on the road, every morning he gets up before everyone else and goes to an exercise area where he begins this iron man workout. This doesn’t mean that you should start tomorrow trying to do 2,000 sit ups. Many of us would be hard pressed to do 200 sit ups and half as many push ups in one sitting. What Walker’s freakishly difficult workout regimen shows is that dedication is the absolute most important part of any workout program.

When Herschel Walker was an NFL player he never lifted weights, but still performed at a high level. How many tailbacks get strong enough in “old age” in their thirties to effectively play fullback? That’s exactly what Walker did in his last season with the Dallas Cowboys.

Dedication and mental toughness are the hardest parts of Walker’s workout plan. He is adamant that these two factors will do more to insure your success than anything else, and he’s lived the life to prove it. For nearly thirty years he has done the same workout, and he’s never skipped a day.

For anyone who wants to know the “secret” of the Herschel Walker workout routine, it’s consistency. If you allow yourself one day off when it’s not an off day, then you’re going to just do the same thing later on and eventually stop working out altogether. When the workout is a constant, a part of the schedule, you might even look forward to that sort of structured workout.

Remember, only the dedicated get ahead.

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[Discipline]

man that is just crazy. hes a workhorse for sure. thats ALOT of situps and pushups. props to him.

[Red Tex]

My god, that is crazy and I respect the hell out of that guy because that is pure mental toughness. That is if those figures are correct.

The few times I've trained in Mui Tai, we can't leave until we'd do 150 sit ups and after a long work out, those 150 sit ups are hard as hell. I mean really fucking hard. He's doing over 2,000!!!!????? That is just insane and I can't imagine him being able to do that.I'm a little skeptical I have to admit.

[Discipline]

ive heard this from NUMEROUS people myself and at first was a little skeptical but the more i see and hear the more i honestly think he does.

[Woodzulu]

I think people should go back even further and look at the fact that Canseco couldn't even win a celebrity boxing match against some ex NFL kicker that was a lot smaller than him and he got crushed by that guy.
I agree Jose is a joke. I am a personal friend of Vai Sikahema he wasn't a kicker but a RB and kick returner he was a golden glove boxer before he went to school at BYU (go Cougars) he lost to Sugar Ray Leonard in the finals. Although Jose got most of the commercialism out of that little match I knew very well that Vai would KO him. He is still in pretty good shape for a guy my age.

[JCota]

Yayass, Walker is a push and sit ups guy. I read an article when he was in College that quoted him of saying that he didn't life weights at all, just push ups and sit ups. He's in some sick shape!

[Red Tex]

I think people should go back even further and look at the fact that Canseco couldn't even win a celebrity boxing match against some ex NFL kicker that was a lot smaller than him and he got crushed by that guy.
I agree Jose is a joke. I am a personal friend of Vai Sikahema he wasn't a kicker but a RB and kick returner he was a golden glove boxer before he went to school at BYU (go Cougars) he lost to Sugar Ray Leonard in the finals. Although Jose got most of the commercialism out of that little match I knew very well that Vai would KO him. He is still in pretty good shape for a guy my age.


Yeah, I knew that guy had some boxing experience. I didn't want to mention that though. :lol:


Tell your buddy that Red Tex thanks him big time for beating the shit out of Canseco. I dispise the guy big time and would love to fight him myself even being much smaller.

But Sikahema wasn't some MMA fighter or anything, and that's still part of my point. It was still a celeb boxing match where most of the time it's some scrub reject celebs or Bonaducci beating up on someone. Canseco has no validity to be calling out any MMA fighters.

[Skycosis]

Well I'm glad hes keeping his workouts simple. It help him prove that hes not doing it for the money.