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Kickass32
08-03-2011, 08:11 PM
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Is Strikeforce Championship Situation Salvageable? (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/8/3/2341103/is-strikeforce-championship-situation-salvageable)
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You might not realize it, but Strikeforce (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/promotion/strikeforce)'s championship situation is in a state of general disarray.
Let's take a brief look at the company's champions before we proceed any further:

Heavyweight: Vacant, last held by Alistair Overeem (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122499/alistair-overeem), who recently was released
Light-heavyweight: Dan Henderson (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122555/dan-henderson), who is a free agent
Middleweight: Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/129158/ronaldo-souza)
Welterweight: Vacant, last held by Nick Diaz (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122575/nick-diaz), who jumped to the UFC
Lightweight: Gilbert Melendez (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122538/gilbert-melendez)
Featherweight: Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/129822/cristiane-santos), maybe?
Bantamweight: Miesha Tate (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/130035/miesha-tate)
So by my count, that's two championships that are vacated and two divisions that have a champion that isn't under contract. Of the three champions who currently are in place, Melendez is probably headed to the UFC the second that opportunity arises while I feel Jacare and especially Tate are locked in with Strikeforce.
That means this is a company seven belts yet only three, at best, champions right now. What exactly does that say about the current state of Strikeforce?
As we've seen for years now in organizations that aren't at the apex of the sport, the championships have a ton of turnover because fighters always are looking for greener pastures. This case is a little different, but outside of Diaz, who actually did move numbers for Showtime, is losing any of these champions going to be a huge loss for Strikeforce?
The fact of the matter is this: Overeem's belt didn't really mean a whole lot. He defended it a total of one time during his three-and-a-half years as champion and was probably more trouble than he was worth for the organization. Until this weekend when he faced a bonafide mega-star in Fedor Emelianenko (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122490/fedor-emelianenko), Henderson really wasn't doing much on the ratings side for Strikeforce and Cyborg has already been largely forgotten and has been out of action for more than a year despite being healthy.
Now, I don't think the championships mean a whole lot to Strikeforce's bottom line (as seem by them putting on attraction fights rather than championship fights), but the company has to make a decision if it wants to have titles. Make a decision one way or another. If they do, they need to be more proactive in setting up fights for the vacant titles. When asked about the welterweight title last week, Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker said he'd have to reassess the situation with the rest of the office. Which, reading between the lines, means they have no idea what they're going to do.
They have a built-in road to finding a heavyweight champion, and that could add more intrigue to the tournament because heavyweight title fights seem to be a big thing in MMA. The situation at light-heavyweight is going to be interesting to watch, though. If Henderson signs with the UFC, as everyone expects him to do, how quickly will Strikeforce crown a new champion there? The company is in a perilous state right now and perception is everything. Not having champions and not being proactive in filling the gaps when they come up just screams "second rate."
For Strikeforce to continue operating with credibility, it needs to fill those championship gaps and it needs to fill them now.

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Rich Davie
08-03-2011, 08:44 PM
No doubt that this looks bad for Strikeforce's future.

Kickass32
08-03-2011, 09:03 PM
The HW strap went basically undefended for what, 3 years...that title has been a joke for a long time.

Kimurafan
08-03-2011, 11:27 PM
If the winner of who's left in the GP is crowned champ, that's probably the best scenario for re-legitimizing the title.

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Kickass32
08-03-2011, 11:30 PM
I don't think there is any other legitimate way of crowning a new HW champ at this point.

CrimsonColts18
08-04-2011, 06:35 PM
No doubt that this looks bad for Strikeforce's future.

huh? strikeforce has a future? that should be in a thread... thats breaking news right there :lol:

Rich Davie
08-04-2011, 07:52 PM
I'm still one of the few MMA fans that enjoy the thought of a Zuffa "minor league" division for women's MMA, upcoming fighters, and a place to put all of those 2 or 3 strike fighters that were cut from the UFC.

Better to have the fighters that have been cut fight under the Zuffa brand, rather than go off to another MMA organization whose primary reason for signing them is so they can use "former UFC fighter" in their promos.

That's virtually how Strikeforce became to be the number 2 MMA organization ! ;)

So terminate the Strikeforce organization altogether and their memory along with any talk about them will fade over time... until another C-tier organization scoops-up the castaways one by one hoping to become half as interesting as Strikeforce was, but this never happens and we as MMA fans are stuck bitching about the new B-tier wannabe. ;)

Now should Zuffa decide to keep Strikeforce around for those purposes mentioned above, the overall quality of the organization has an advantage over other "start-ups" by leaps and bounds since most of those things in Strikeforce have been worked on for years and just need to be polished-up Zuffa-style... not to mention the loss of one MMA venue with virtually free MMA... it might not always be the best MMA, but after Zuffa buffs things up it'll be more excellent free MMA for the fans. :D

CrimsonColts18
08-04-2011, 09:15 PM
I'm still one of the few MMA fans that enjoy the thought of a Zuffa "minor league" division for women's MMA, upcoming fighters, and a place to put all of those 2 or 3 strike fighters that were cut from the UFC.

Better to have the fighters that have been cut fight under the Zuffa brand, rather than go off to another MMA organization whose primary reason for signing them is so they can use "former UFC fighter" in their promos.

That's virtually how Strikeforce became to be the number 2 MMA organization ! ;)

So terminate the Strikeforce organization altogether and their memory along with any talk about them will fade over time... until another C-tier organization scoops-up the castaways one by one hoping to become half as interesting as Strikeforce was, but this never happens and we as MMA fans are stuck bitching about the new B-tier wannabe. ;)

Now should Zuffa decide to keep Strikeforce around for those purposes mentioned above, the overall quality of the organization has an advantage over other "start-ups" by leaps and bounds since most of those things in Strikeforce have been worked on for years and just need to be polished-up Zuffa-style... not to mention the loss of one MMA venue with virtually free MMA... it might not always be the best MMA, but after Zuffa buffs things up it'll be more excellent free MMA for the fans. :D

lol yea make no mistake about it... i WANT them to have it... i want them to have a place where they can use guys who are just coming up... get them experience against maybe some vetarans who have lost a couple fights... take them off ufc put them on the smaller show against the guys coming up... i would LOVE for that to happen... and i actually said it a few times... how i wish the ufc would take the idea of like "strikeforce challengers series" but... while i would love for that to happen... i dont think it will lol... i certainly dont think they will keep strikeforce around lol cause they are gonna wanna be like "okey... strikeforce is gone... now... let me cherry pick out of these fighters that i would like to have..." having said that... hopefully they will go make something to put guys who are coming up on it...

Rich Davie
08-04-2011, 09:24 PM
It only makes sense when you consider Zuffa's interest in a potential UFC channel... it would be a great idea to have a minor leagues for programing purposes.

Kickass32
08-04-2011, 11:26 PM
I have softened my stance on women's MMA....I was never against it per se, just not in the "Bigs".....I think, along with most I suspect, that Strikeforce needs to stay operational, if for nothing more than the feeder "Triple A" to the UFC "Big Leagues".

There are too many fighters now, quality fighters for 15 PPV's and 6-8 free shows a year...there needs to be a place for up and comers, and "lovable losers" to go to before and after their UFC career.